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Another Day, Another Scrimmage, But Intensity Is Building

Carolina Hurricanes Tim Gleason and Justin Soryal drop the gloves during a team scrimmage on Tuesday, September 20, 2011.  (photo by Jamie Kellner)

The Carolina Hurricanes held another scrimmage today and have more scheduled for this week, one each for Wednesday and Thursday.  If by chance you didn't think there was enough intensity in Sunday's Red/White game, the players ramped things up a bit today.

At one point, Justin Soryal and Tim Gleason apparently gave each other dirty looks and dropped the gloves to settle things.  Soryal accumulated over 200 penalty minutes in the AHL last season and will be looked upon to police things in Charlotte.  He was perhaps looking to show the Carolina coaching staff that he could play the same role in Raleigh, if needed. 

Whatever the reason behind it, the skirmish fired up the rest of the players and both sides skated with a bit more purpose after that.

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Paul Maurice stated after the practice that he would not want to see 10 of those during camp, but he does like at least one of them. 

"They came out with more energy in the second, and after, it was on for awhile," Maurice said. "That’s what you need to have happen. It was great."

The scrimmage ended with the score tied 3-3.  According to various reports on Twitter,  Jussi Jokinen, Tomas Kaberle, Bobby Sanguinetti, Justin Shugg, Cedric McNicoll, and Victor Rask had the goals.

The players will be back on the ice tomorrow with a practice session at 10 a.m. and a scrimmage at noon.  For more information about today's action check out Michael Smith's writeup at CH.com and Chip's article on Canes Now.  See more of Jamie's pics of the Gleason/Soryal throwdown at her Flicker Account.

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Regarding the Gleason-Soryal fight, it was definitely instigated by Soryal which makes me think he was trying to catch the attention of the coaches.

Jamie was sitting with me so if I get any details wrong, she’s free to correct me. Gleason and Soryal sort of hit each other along the boards, Soryal gave Gleason an extra couple of taps with the stick, Gleason pushed the stick away with the death glare we’ve all come to fear and then Soryal dropped the gloves. Tim was only too happy to oblige.

I didn’t make it out on Sunday so I’m sure I’m re-stating things that other people already noticed, but I was surprised by the physicality of the scrimmage. No one held back or pulled up; Gleason hitting Skinner was the perfect example of that. Staal was basically just shrugging off the younger, less experienced guys as if they were mighty mites. Ruutu and Jokinen were on each other constantly. Every time one turned around, his countryman was right there.

For this hockey starved girl, it was the perfect lunch break!

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Sep 20, 2011 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the report!

Editing Manager of Canes Country.com

by Bob Wage on Sep 20, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you hit all the salient points :)

The only other thing I noted was that Soryal didn’t back down at all after he got out of the box.

First time I’ve ever seen teammates fight live, was quite the spectacle! When was the last time we had a fight at a practice or a training camp? I remember Kevyn Adams and Bret Hedican (yeah that one STILL blows my mind) early in the 2006-07 season, have there been more recent ones?

by Jamie Kellner on Sep 20, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very good point-he definitely was still throwing the body around. To me it always seemed to be aimed at smaller, more skilled guys (he definitely steered clear of Gleason), but I could be exaggerating that in my mind.

I haven’t heard of any other fights since Hedican-K. Adams. Maybe someone with a better memory for this kind of stuff will have one, but I’m definitely blanking on one.

"What Carolina really has going for them is Brandon Sutter. When that kid first showed up, he looked like a skinny little thing that wouldn’t last two weeks. But he’s turned into a real star."

by caniacgirl on Sep 20, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 9/20/2011 scrimmage

I was sitting at center ice today and got there with about 4 minutes gone in the first period. My impression of the scrimmage is that fundamentally the players are very determined to make a statement. It includes the players who are core players such as Staal, Ruutu, Jokinen, Pitkanen, Gleason, Kaberle, etc. as well as the young kids. Lowe had an excellent game; and is gaining confidence every time I see him. Kaberle impressed me as well. I had been surprised by how big he is. I had envisioned him as about the size of his brother; but he is more like Gleason’s size.

   Jokinen and Ruutu are not giving an inch to the other; and Jokinen’s skating is more fluid and faster thus far than I’ve seen before. Staal must have taken Brind’Amour intensity training. He wants to win these scrimmages. Skinner, too, has that same dogged desire to win.

   Ponikarovsky showed excellent speed today and missed a goal by inches, clanging the puck off the post. Stewart was scrimmaging as well. I am guessing the coaches want Stewart ready for putting up the big minutes that Skinner and Ruutu will play. The coaches must be loving Stewart because he is a very heady player. He can distribute the puck very quickly; and doesn’t stare down his linemate, telegraphing the pass.

    Rask had a great scrimmage. It’s more than the fact he scored a goal. Rask is a puck magnet; and he is always in the right position. He also plays very intelligently in his defensive zone and knows how to use his peripheral vision to assess his coverage. If Rask continues to score goals in the scrimmages and pre-season, he will make the coaches think hard. I know Jim Rutherford wants Rask play 20 to 24 minutes a game; but Rask has a maturity on the ice well ahead of his age. I think he has the same kind of upper end potential that Dalpe possesses. Both are big, fast, highly skilled, highly intelligent hockey players. Dalpe is an extroverted, funny, enthusiastic person whose love of hockey fills the rink; whereas Rask is quietly determined, more in the Drayson Bowman vein.

   Kudos to Mike McKenzie who is stronger and more confident in all facets of the game than last camp. Brett Sutter is a man on a mission; and during one shift he wound up skating stride for stride with Pitkanen. Brody Sutter is going to make the coaches happy as he gains experience and develops. Watching him skate is like watching a huge version of Brandon Sutter. All three of the Sutters have excellent stride and form. I have been a fan of Lindstrom since he was drafted. He is doing a fine job; and with experience could be another sleeper for the Hurricanes.

   Jordan is a great skater as well. It wasn’t a scrimmage in which I noticed Terry; but I’ve seen him play so often, I wasn’t putting an isocam on him. Terry is a player I think could blossom if he can gain some more raw speed. He’s very fit and although he is listed at 197 lbs; I think he has put on muscle and strength. Terry has hands that really remind me of Stillman. He’s another very intelligent hockey player; and he is also at his best when the game is on the line.

     I have no clue how Jim Rutherford, Jason Karmanos, Jr. and the coaches will sort out who among the young players makes the Canes team. There are many worthy candidates. Dalpe, Bowman, and Boychuk did not scrimmage today; but if I were judging, I’d say Dalpe was clearly the #1 young forward to date. Bowman and Tlusty are close behind Dalpe. Boychuk, Nash, Terry, and Samson (and I personally would be Rask in that group) of fine, young forward prospects who could readily contribute at the NHL if called upon to do so. It’s quite early in the pre-season/training camp so things could change radically with a stellar performance or two by any of the young forwards. There is one position, and possibly, but unlikely, two positions at forward that are up for the taking. It’s obvious all the team realizes that jobs are truly on the line; and nobody is taking anything for granted. It makes for very fun watching from a fan’s perspective.

by abramsdoug on Sep 20, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the report Doug!

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by Bob Wage on Sep 20, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats ridiculous. somehow i bet gleason started this. this is def. uncalled for between teammates.

by URANUS on Sep 20, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like we're in the minority...

but I agree. Why the hell would you take the risk?

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 22, 2011 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

YAAAAYYY. Maybe he can break his hand again!!! A short time ago weren’t we all saying " Gleason must be hurt. He just isn’t playing his typical brand of hockey."? What better way to ensure your 100% healthy for the regular season than fighting in a meaningless game with an AHL’er! THAT’S what I want from an alternate captain!

Satan is just a coping mechanism for monotheists.

by wilmnoca on Sep 20, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Game is getting soft, so are the fans

Really surprised some of you have a problem with that fight today. After the Buffalo game last night (which lacked a lot of intensity for a game between young guys fighting for jobs) Gleason sets the example. Gleason isn’t going to back down from anyone and, for an established NHL player, had no problems slapping hands with Justin Soryal. Soryal’s only job is to slap hands so I thought it was interesting Gleason obliged. Kudos to both men for setting the tempo today. I truly love the fact this happened.

These kind of fights in camp aren’t prevalent in the NHL like it used to be but they should happen at least once every training camp. Sets the tempo for camp and it will help the team in the coming days. A lot of players have something to prove. This camp should separate the true NHL’ers from the guys who truly have no business being considered for a job on your roster (ahem, Samson).

by Storminator16 on Sep 20, 2011 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope. Nothing to do with being soft. The reason I don’t think fighting is worthwhile in scrimmages, is the same reason coaches don’t let the players go out and bang in scrimmages. It’s just plain stupid. Make your confusing being soft with being smart?

Satan is just a coping mechanism for monotheists.

by wilmnoca on Sep 20, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe that is.

Satan is just a coping mechanism for monotheists.

by wilmnoca on Sep 20, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think it’s stupid. Injuries are a distinct possibility in every fight. I really don’t think it is smart for Gleason to risk an injury fighting a potential teammate (who will likely play mostly in the AHL) in a scrimmage during pre-season.

by hurricane9 on Sep 20, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope. Gleason could take a puck to the face or an awkward fall could end his season tomorrow. Being smart is not taking anything for granted, playing your game, and being a leader by setting the tempo. Gleason is the smart guy with the NHL career, not us.

by Storminator16 on Sep 20, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. But I could die driving my car down the street. The chances increase if I’m driving 120mph though. As far as players trying to make a name for themselves and crack the NHL lineup. That’s what preseason games are for not scrimmages. Not a valid argument.

Satan is just a coping mechanism for monotheists.

by wilmnoca on Sep 20, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Interesting discussion. My thoughts go in a different direction. A lot of hockey is about team dynamics – how well the players click together, the intensity level of the team – lots of intangibles. I think Gleason, Staal and the other team leaders are setting the tone early – they want to start the season with a high-intensity, take-no-prisoners team dynamic. That’s why the coach had no problem with the scuffle – just not too often. Anyway, that’s my thoughts.

by jonl355 on Sep 21, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely true.

But one must practice to play the game. There is absolutely no need whatsoever to fight a teammate.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 22, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Lacked intensity?"

From whom? Boychuck? One guy? That’s still no reason to risk the health of one of your top three defensemen with a potential gain of, what? A chance for a bunch of hockey players who have seen dozens—if not hundreds—of fights to say, “Oh, cool, a fight.”

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 22, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

These guys aren’t going to make the playoffs by pussy footing around during training camp.

by Storminator16 on Sep 20, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

They aren’t going to make the playoffs anyway. Have you seen the forwards??!?!?

Satan is just a coping mechanism for monotheists.

by wilmnoca on Sep 20, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that top 9 looks solid to me. Ponikarovsky had a bit of injury trouble last season and he looks to be skating a heck of a whole lot better than what I’ve seen from a few months ago. I’ve seen enough of Dalpe in Charlotte to see he has the skills & hockey sense to be a NHL regular this season. Look around the conference; this top 9 isn’t bad. The guys just need time to jell.

For the bottom 3, I think Brent is definitely the only lock for the 4th line. In my opinion, Dalpe’s spot is not open, so there are only two spots left. Bowman & Tlusty looks like they are battling for a spot, but I don’t think Dwyer is all that safe. A guy like Brett Sutter can take his job at any time. Like I said, these guys don’t have time to be pussy footing around camp.

I’m not down on Boychuk, but he may be best served playing for another team. I don’t think he’ll be able to reach his potential in his current situation with the Canes.

by Storminator16 on Sep 20, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m very worried about Boychuk. In some of his NHL games last year, he really looked as though he could add scoring and playmaking punch. Then over the summer, I got concerned because we were hearing nothing about his conditioning – a big contrast with Chris Terry, Zac Dalpe, Jordan Staal, even Victor Rask showing up as the best conditioned player at a junior camp. Not hearing anything about Boychuk’s conditioning didn’t mean Boychuk wasn’t working hard, but it would have been nice to hear something confirming that.

Now I’m wondering if Boychuk just doesn’t get the situation. Based on everybody’s comments—and circumstances kept me from watching the televised games or coming to a scrimmage so I have no firsthand impression—it sounds as though Boychuk thinks training camp is a time to get in shape, with the goal of being ready by the first game. Other prospects seem to have come to camp in great shape ready to compete from day 1. Either Boychuk isn’t in shape to compete or he lacks competitive drive compared to a half dozen other prospects. It will be a colossal shame if Boychuk fizzles and not only doesn’t come close to making the Canes, but destroys his trade value for the balance of his contract.

by curiouscanesfan on Sep 21, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where Zach Boychuk was: Crash Conditioning

From Chip):

Boychuk, 21, said he did his conditioning work this summer at the Crash Conditioning training center in Calgary along with Washington Capitals defenseman Mike Green, Edmonton Oilers forward Jordan Eberle and others.

His on-ice performance in camp is certainly fair game for discussion, but I think where he spent his summer was actually pretty darn prestigious.

by Jamie Kellner on Sep 21, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that news came late in relation to training camp, as I recall. It’s still of a different order from Skinner’s statements that he would come back faster and stronger and reports on Dalpe making a similar statement and having a sand pit installed at his house for training. Agreed, these reports mean nothing in themselves. But I would have liked things a lot better if Boychuk was talking about coming in faster and 10 lbs heavier and then played like a demon from the first drill.

I’m still hoping Boychuk will turn it around. He certainly seems to me to have the talent – I really thought based on last year’s performance he should be considered Dalpe’s peer as the top; Canes’ forward prospect. But from every comment I’ve heard or read from people watching Boychuk this preseason, Boychuk sounds as though he’s declined the challenge to compete for a job. There’s yet another disappointing report from yesterday’s practice.

I thought by now we’d be reading daily reports of Boychuk and Dalpe one-upping each other in practice and making the coaches think about finding a way to make room for both. There seems no danger of that at this point.

Is Boychuk injured? Has he decided he doesn’t want to play hockey for a living? Is he demoralized by being eclipsed by Skinner and Dalpe and lacking the determination to fight back? Count me among those mystified by Boychuk’s lackluster performance to date. I think the higher your hopes were for him, the greater the disappointment and puzzlement.

by curiouscanesfan on Sep 22, 2011 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forwards will be fine. Its the D you should worry about.
I went to many camps over the years. Don’t recall one where at some point tempers didn’t flare. Unlike a real game, between teammates they are over real quick and never get too far out of hand. All part of the game. They will laugh about it after. Not unique to hockey. My brother played pro football. Same there too….. like brothers fighting.

by sittler27 on Sep 20, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually like this group of defensemen, and Kaberle style of play fits this team a bit more than it did with the Bruins. With that said, the Canes style of play exposed them at times last season (i.e., most nights) but I think Dave Lewis will put them in a better position to succeed. I really like Faulk’s poise and he looks like a pro, but I really hope they aren’t considering him for this roster. He would be well served by playing at least half a season in the AHL. In regards to the AHL, the only other defenseman I can see having a NHL career is Michal Jordan. We got Murphy and Dumoulin on the way, but we don’t have decent options for callups this season. That’s why the Canes signed Roy, and that’s a problem, in my opinion.

by Storminator16 on Sep 20, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope you are right. But imo we do not have a D that would crack the top 2 on any other playoff team. The young guys may still get there but our vets are all 2nd or 3rd pairing quality and some wouldn’t crack elite team D rosters. You can win with D by committee but you better have forwards who are willing to play a strong two way game. Fortunately I think we have those and an elite goalie. But I would still like to see a top tier shut down D on our team to complement all the offensive minded D. Sorry, but Gleason, Allen and Harrison don’t do it for me.

by sittler27 on Sep 20, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was fretting over Corvo/Allen/Harrison/Gleason over the summer until we signed Kaberle. I’m glad Corvo asked for a trade because Kabs is a passer, not a shooter and is more steady with the puck. In a nutshell: puck control. I’m excited to see the dynamics now with that one change. Plus with the addition of Dave Lewis. I think having a coach like that around is huge.

I’ve never been big on Harrison, but he skates better than I give him credit for. I think he’s a good #7 and can play in the top 6 without too much worries. I’m not too down on Gleason, I expect him to bounce back this season. Both Gleason/Allen are rugged defensemen that this team sorely needs. The Canes were just too soft on the back end the past three seasons so as long as Allen doesn’t get too many minutes I think he’ll be very, very effective. I really like his game when he’s put into positions to succeed. McBain seems to play well off any of his partners, and he’s the X-Factor that just makes the group of defensemen work. I’m really looking forward to see how he works out this season.

Pitkanen, with all of his faults, would have banked on the open market. His playoffs performance from ‘09 tells you what kind of defenseman he is. As much as his faults drive me nuts at times, he’s a damn good one. I’ve always been a fan of Tomas Kaberle as I think he’s a terrific play maker from the back end. Having two d-lines with players like Pits and Kabs will generate scoring chances, no doubt. I’m actually excited about this group, but injuries and consistent sub-par performances from a couple of guys could probably kill my enthusiasm fairly quick. LOL

by Storminator16 on Sep 20, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't mention Joslin...

…because I think he’s fine. He definitely deserves more time over Harrison because he has more upside and maybe a better choice to have in the lineup at this point. Hope he gets over his illness soon so he can prove himself.

by Storminator16 on Sep 20, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm starting to get a little worried.

I wonder what kind of illness would still be requiring testing at this point.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 22, 2011 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pitkanen is a top pair player on almost any team in the league, if not all of them.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 22, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Their style of play exposed them “most nights?” Last I checked, they scored points in 51 of their 82 games. What would they have done if they weren’t so “exposed,” I wonder.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 22, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Worried about the D also. Easy though. People ‘round these parts don’t want to hear that! I tried to make an argument about the D not being up to snuff and caught holy hell. I understand that skirmishes happen, but if Timmy can’t play well when he is injured ( and we know from experience, he can’t ) then why even put yourself in a situation where you can potentially get hurt. Not very becoming of an “A”.

Satan is just a coping mechanism for monotheists.

by wilmnoca on Sep 20, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

For those who missed it in an earlier post, here are Maurice’s comments after practice and also about last nights game. Audio – 7 mins

Twitter @HMof2

by Carolyn Christians on Sep 20, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of guys fighting for jobs

And I just saw that Troy Bodie was on the Winnipeg side of the 3rd fight in the first 15 minutes vs Columbus in Winnipeg. I believe he’s still on a PTO with the Jets.

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by Carolyn Christians on Sep 20, 2011 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Look to your Right

Bob, I’m glad I have a big monitor, because that roster is huge! At what point do you send guys to Florida? (I’ll go read Carolyn’s great guide again).

Watching some of the game last night – I think it is tough to play games on the road in the pre-season – I bet we will see much more intensity when they play games either here or in the Queen City. Which leads to an interesting question – will Mo play more Checkers in that game so the home crowd can see them?

by jbwhite99 on Sep 20, 2011 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Chip reported there were be cuts tomorrow. Matt Mahalak (G) was reassigned to Plymouth this afternoon. The schedule show they’re supposed to be down to 2 groups after the game Nashville, but that schedule seems to be very fluid, which is fine/great, but just take my approximations with that understanding.

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by Carolyn Christians on Sep 20, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep – have them clipped for the next C&C. Ruutu as a Wing is so last year (LOL), but putting Skinner behind only Ovi, St Louis, and Semin is pretty decent.

Also like seeing Sutter get the love and appreciate he noticed the plus/minus was team best despite the fall-off in points.

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by Carolyn Christians on Sep 20, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say the opposite on the Charlotte game.

I think they will try and play a decent number of regulars, as they’ve advertised it as a chance to see the actual Hurricanes, not the team of the future.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!

by MichaelProcton on Sep 22, 2011 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

D-men..

I’m pretty happy with the depth we have! besides the obvious seven,… Faulk, Murphy, Sanguinetti, and the Mo-designated NHL-Ready Krueger gives us lots of backups!!!
Jordan and Roy can also hold their own!!

by randycane on Sep 20, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

If anyone is reading this before 11:20ish in Raleigh, TV11 news (abc affiliate) has (brief) highlights from the scrimmage today including at least 3 of the goals (Jokinen, Kaberle, Sanguinetti) and the fight betwn Gleason and Soryal. I just caught it in the 10pm version on cw – worth even a dvr moment to see Kaberle dangle.

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by Carolyn Christians on Sep 20, 2011 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting to see the ‘Canes taking it up a notch during camp. Read an interesting article here http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/hockey/nhl/09/20/devils.peter.deboer.ap/index.html?sct=nhl_t2_a4 about the Devils’ new approach to things.

Will be interesting to see if any of the Checkers push any of the underwhelming veterans off the payroll in Raleigh. (I’m looking at you, Jiri Tlusty, you, Patty Dwyer, and you, Chad LaRose).

Okay, so Rosie being pushed out is my personal feelings toward a great character guy who probably does not belong anywhere other than a fourth line, but that’s just me.

Of Maurice, Karmanos said: "I’m happy Paul is back but he’s going to be judged the same way as any other coach. We need to win more consistently."

by Sergeant Stinky on Sep 21, 2011 7:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Although their games do differ to some degree, as well as their impact in the room, Dwyer and LaRose to me are kind of redundant. Dwyer is a 4th line winger, and LaRose is a 4th line winger who has the experience to move up to a 3rd line in an emergency situation. As LaRose is not going anywhere it would appear that the competition for wingers to play with Brent on the 4th line would be between Bowman, Tlusty, Dwyer, and (hopefully) LaRose. I say hopefully because I am hoping the staff is not looking at Rosie for anything above a 4th line at this point. I like Dwyer, and he did as well as he could playing a center position. He worked hard every night and did what was asked, and you can’t ask for more than that. But I just don’t see room for him on the big club. Bowman continues to make a case for himself and a 4th line of Brent- Bowman- LaRose could eat up 8-10 min a night. I have to give Bowman credit. He was drafted with an expectation that he’d be scoring more by now than he’s been able to. But unlike Boychuk, Bowman has worked hard to make himself an asset to the club in other ways. To me Tlusty is looking at healthy extra and Dwyer may be on the outside- headed to Charlotte.

by Hockeydog on Sep 21, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

dumb fight

I wouldn’t have taken sh** from a new and fringe guy either. Kudos to Gleason, lets just hope he stays healthy. Yes Soryal should have waited for an exhibition instead of a scrimmage, but I wouldn’t expect a man of character (Gleason) to look the other way while some noob is asking for a beat-down. If Soryal is lagging behind the other fringe players, he will likely not get a chance to spar in an exhibition, so this may have been one of his few chances to “perform”.
Of course, it’s it was perfectly unnecessary on Soryal’s part – all you have to do is go to youtube or hockeyfights.com to see how a guy handles himself. And if youtube auto-fills “fights” after a guy’s name, you can pretty well guess their strong suit.

by Caniac1026 on Sep 21, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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