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Tim Gleason, right, was reunited with Bryan Allen Tuesday, and the duo helped keep Scott Hartnell, center, and linemates Claude Giroux and Jaromir Jagr off the score sheet. (Photo by Jamie Kellner)

The Philadelphia Flyers found a way to knock off the hot-at-home Carolina Hurricanes Tuesday, grinding out a 2-1 win at the RBC Center. Jerome Samson, in his first game of the year with the Canes, scored Carolina's lone goal, the first of his NHL career.

The loss drops Carolina to 14-23-7 with 35 points, last in the Eastern Conference and tied for third-worst in the NHL.

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Three Observations

1. Cam Ward may have gotten the loss, but Carolina's goalie had a great night in net. Ward's play with his glove is usually a good indicator of what kind of night he's having, but other than one bobble he squeezed several Flyers shots with his trapper. You can't pin either goal on him — Brayden Schenn's rebound goal came after Ward made a nice save on Wayne Simmonds original shot, while Sean Couturier's game-winner was a perfectly placed shot that was allowed due to a mix-up between Jay Harrison and Justin Faulk.

2. The officiating seemed to go Philadelphia's way Tuesday. While iffy penalties called against Carolina (including a roughing call on Tim Gleason) didn't end up as power play goals for the Flyers, there were times when Philly got calls (tripping call on Staal for taking down Timonen) that Carolina didn't (Tlusty being taken down shortly after the Timonen trip). The Canes' power play seemed to be having a good night, so missing out on those extra-man chances may have cost them the game. Philadelphia typical, right?

3. Gleason and Bryan Allen were reunited on the blue line, likely to assist Brandon Sutter's line with the Flyers' top trio of Claude Giroux, Jaromir Jagr and Scott Hartnell. It seemed to work as Philadelphia's top line was limited to just three shots and finished with no points. In Philly's other two wins this season over the Canes, those three Flyers had a combined six goals and eight assists, but in last night's loss and Carolina's lone win (Nov. 21) in the season series, they were held off the board.

Number To Know

74 — Players who have scored a power play goal in Hurricanes history. Samson joined the list with his first NHL goal Tuesday, knocking in a Faulk rebound to tie the game at 1 in the second period. Among the 12 other players with one career PPG as a Cane include: Pavel Brendl, Mike Zigomanis, Zach Boychuk, Drayson Bowman and Anson Carter. Staal ranks first all-time with 90, while Jeff O'Neill is second with 61. The next active leader behind Staal is Tuomo Ruutu, who has 27 with Carolina.

Plus

Jerome Samson — The Carolina youngster — officially no longer considered a rookie — was the Canes' best forward Tuesday, scoring the only goal and nearly tying the game in the third on a nice feed from Staal. Yes, he's a step slow at the NHL level, but his work in the corners is excellent and he has a knack for being in the right place. His five shots led the team — no surprise there, given that he leads the AHL in shots year after year — and he didn't make any mistakes in his own end.

Minus

Anthony Stewart — Stewart was all over the ice when given the opportunity, but not necessarily in the way one would like him to be. Stewart's biggest issue — and likely the reason his ice time is limited most nights, regardless of the coach — is that he doesn't seem on task with where he should be on the ice. He has great speed for his size and goes hard, but his propensity for being out of position or turning over the puck makes him a wild card most nights. On Schenn's goal, he had the puck behind the Phily net with Jiri Tlusty feet away, but instead fed the puck to the corner to Staal, who was covered by two Flyers. The result was a rush up ice that led to Schenn's tally.

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Skinner

Who goes back to the Checkers when Skinner is back? Nash was initially called up, I believe…

by FuquayCaniac on Jan 12, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m still confused about the emergency call-up situations, but if I’m right in thinking emergency call-ups must go back when there is a full 18 player roster available, then Samson.

by hurricane9 on Jan 12, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I posted the actual rules in the CBA on the right side as a fan post. In effect, by using the transfer form ( a piece of paper) the Canes can convert an emergency call-up to a regular call up without physically sending that player down after the injured player returns. The Canes choice is then who fills the slots on the minimum Big Team roster required and who is sent down.

When able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
Sun Tzu circa 4th Century BC

by hurricanefever on Jan 12, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Converting to a regular call-up could change their waiver status though. I’m not sure what Samson’s is right now.

by hurricane9 on Jan 12, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he is in the last year of his entry level contract which means he is under a two-way contract.

When able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
Sun Tzu circa 4th Century BC

by hurricanefever on Jan 12, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Two-way contracts don’t have bearing on their waiver status. Common misconception. They only give players different pay at the two levels.

by hurricane9 on Jan 12, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Only stating what it was……not what it meant. I have no idea of what his waiver status might be…….

When able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
Sun Tzu circa 4th Century BC

by hurricanefever on Jan 12, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I looked this up and it was typical convoluted as usual. Here is the best info that I found and does provide part of the answer:

Younger players are protected from the waiver wires until they reach a certain age or have played a certain number of NHL games. This will vary depending on what age their first NHL contract is signed. Samson signed his first contract (this one) at almost 21 years of age. As a rule of thumb:

Goalies are protected to age 24-26 or until they have played 60-80 games.

Skaters are protected to age 23-26 or until they have played 60-160 games.

Players are exempt from waivers if on a conditioning assignment (14 day maximum)

As a general rule, the older the player is when he signs his first NHL contract, the older he will be until he is no longer exempt for waivers but the fewer games he must play to be exempt from waivers.

Examples:
-A goalie who signs his first NHL contract at 20 years old is exempted from waivers until he is 24 years old or has played 80 NHL games.
-A goalie who signs his first NHL contract at 23 years old is exempted from waivers until he is 26 years old or has played 60 NHL games.
-A skater who signs his first NHL contract at 19 years old is exempted from waivers until he is 23 years old or plays 160 NHL games.
-A skater who signs his first NHL contract at 22 years old is exempted from waivers until he is 25 years old or plays 70 NHL games.

When able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
Sun Tzu circa 4th Century BC

by hurricanefever on Jan 12, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Samson is waiver eligible, as is Brett Sutter. The emergency call-up status allowed the waiver process to be bypassed. Once the emergency call-up situation is resolved by the appropriate players returning to the lineup, they must be sent down to Charlotte immediately. If either stay beyond their emergency return, they will be subject to waivers if they’re sent back down later.

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by Jamie Kellner on Jan 12, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

This may help… Here’s the report from training camp where we released players back to Charlotte. You can see the seven that had to pass through waivers: Chris Durno, Jon Matsumoto, Brett Sutter, Justin Peters, Jerome Samson, and Mathieu Roy:

TSN’s Bob McKenzie reports 7 Canes on waivers prior to AHL assignment

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by Jamie Kellner on Jan 12, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Given Samson’s play and the playoffs looming, He would not make it through waivers now……

by Squeaky83 on Jan 12, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks…….the number of variables concerning waivers is much more than I expected. Should have realized that when I found out that it was part of the CBA, something like………….“two committees get together to design a horse. After much discussion and compromise the first camel emerged.”

When able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
Sun Tzu circa 4th Century BC

by hurricanefever on Jan 13, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

One glaring difference

between Paul Maurice and Kirk Muller is the new coach’s faith and trust in young, unproven call-up players. Drayson Bowman – when he was still in Raleigh – was used extensively in top 9 situations. Last night, Jerome Samson finally got his chance to shine in a top 9 role and took full advantage of it as we saw.

With Coach Mo, Samson would have been stuck on the 4th line last night and would have gotten about 3 minutes of ice time.

Barry Melrose Rocks: Hockey and mullets. What else is there?

by wuffy on Jan 11, 2012 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Here here

"Forget about style; worry about results."
Bobby Orr

by Caniac233 on Jan 11, 2012 3:44 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Hockey and mullets.

You took the words right out of my mouth!

In Kirk we Trust

by Mullett on Jan 12, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I do think I now understand why Stewart has yet to really move up lines for any extended period of time. He seems to do fine against other 4th lines, but he is just not the same player when he has to play against top defensive pairings and forwards with more skill.

Staal & Dalpe; The New Dynamic Duo or The Canes Crusaders!

by PackPride17 on Jan 11, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry for the unrelated question, but I was wondering, do the Canes play zone defense or man?

-handle (credit goes to Rainbow, Kitty, Beer)

by Flash in the Pan on Jan 11, 2012 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

it has depended on the team they play and who is out hurt and whose not

but for the most part it has been a defence zone type most of the time but not always…..as i ’d love to see the canes freak folks out by mastering the 1-3-1 defence as tampa did earlier in this season..drove the flyers and others Nutz!!

9/11/01 - Never Forget !!
Long Live #63 The Condor
Go Canes & Checkers !!!

by CaniacSteve on Jan 11, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Other than some shadow assignments on superstars, no one at the pro or other high level plays “man to man”. With the speed and crossing patterns in hockey that would be chaotic. But once there is zone penetration and you have your man you generally don’t leave him on that rush. Once the play goes to the corners or boards the defensive zone players tend to fall back towards their assignments….. center down low. Wingers cover their lanes and react. D have down low front, side and behind and judgement on whether to hold their position or pursue…. it is very read and react. All at light speed which makes hockey so much fun to play and watch.

There is more to it than this but we would need a chalkboard to go over the variables

by sittler27 on Jan 11, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Good stuff right there. Thanks 27.

by 210beer on Jan 11, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Info,

Thanks a lot. This is the kind of stuff I love to here. Being from the south and never having played hockey, but love to watch, (and find myself fascinated with the detailed stuff) having a better understanding of what’s going on on the ice is great. Thanks Sittler27.

by Canesfan1 on Jan 12, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

as i shared earlier..a loss is still a loss

but with some players Like Samson,Sutter, and Faulk the silly mistakes ( that all players make) at the wrong time like Ruutu’s drop pass to a flyers as our d-man was backing up will not assist the Canes in winning..and speaking of stewart how about Poni?? for people whose claim to fame was sitting in front of the other teams net picking up the garbage and stuffing it in the goal..haven’t seen that in quite a while..speed is good but it’s a waste of energy if the puck is NOT heading towards the net 7 out of 10 shots made.taken…or am i expecting too much from Paid professionals ..:-) Great Job Cory !! and this fan thanks you!!

9/11/01 - Never Forget !!
Long Live #63 The Condor
Go Canes & Checkers !!!

by CaniacSteve on Jan 11, 2012 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

You already know the answer to that. No time to think in hockey. All about read and react and creating time and space or taking it away. You could argue that if everyone played every shift to perfection there would be no scoring chances. But we all know that never happens because the light speed of the game constantly creates opportunities if you are a split second off in your judgement, timing or mishandle. How many hilight reel goals do we actually see….. most are as a result of something that broke down.

by sittler27 on Jan 11, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Rough

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=611147

NHL.com projects All-Star participants. Only Justin Faulk makes the list for the Canes. I expected at least one of Skinner or Staal would make it but I guess even that is in question.

by JussiJuice on Jan 11, 2012 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

yesthat is very rough

and freakn sd too thanks JusiJuice

9/11/01 - Never Forget !!
Long Live #63 The Condor
Go Canes & Checkers !!!

by CaniacSteve on Jan 11, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

You really expected to see Skinner or Staal? Skinner maybe, but even before being hurt, he wasn’t in all-star territory. And Staal? They’re looking for stars. For this season.

by 210beer on Jan 11, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That is rough!

Hail to the Redskins!

by HTTR4LIFE on Jan 11, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

This is neat .. since I’m lazy, how did you do this little follow widget?

by Cory Lavalette on Jan 13, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

yay!

I knew writing in Justin Faulk on Day 1 would get the votes rollin’. :D

sad to see Skinner didn’t make it.

:(

Ready for the Canes to win the Cup again! :)

by thebl4ckd0g on Jan 12, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Staal

Perhaps not making the All-Star pooster will wake him up a bit?

by FuquayCaniac on Jan 12, 2012 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you need a Sniper like Mike Camalleri in Carolina?

The guy just announced that the Canadiens of Montreal is a looser team at the press conference :-)

by Sou on Jan 12, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

Rather...

Get Erik Cole back from them than Camalleri to be honest.

Ready for the Canes to win the Cup again! :)

by thebl4ckd0g on Jan 12, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

please — no more retreads!!! the organiZation seems to finally be moving in a new direction, let’s break ourselves of old habits, shall we?

"I need to make sure I don't get too frustrated and stay focused on my game...The points and the offense, you have to believe, are going to come." - Eric Staal, 11/6/2011

by Capt. Stinky on Jan 12, 2012 7:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Ban Retreads

I am weary of retreads and trying to recapture the lost magic of the past. No to Cole.

by abramsdoug on Jan 12, 2012 8:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually wouldn’t mind Cammalleri, but he wouldn’t be my first choice. He’s twice scored over 30 goals and is a PPG player in the playoffs. The downside is that he has a hefty contract and also has a history of injuries (only 3 times has he played over 70 games in a season, of course he averages 33 goals a season when he does).

I think it is unlikely JR will actually make the move for Cammalleri due to his contract; but he might could be had for cheaper (trade return) than expected.

Staal & Dalpe; The New Dynamic Duo or The Canes Crusaders!

by PackPride17 on Jan 12, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

+ Cole like Cammalleri have contracts that are hard to trade with Cole being 33 with 3 more years at $4.5 is to much ,and Cammalleri has 2yrs left @ $6m per year he’s only 29 ,but as PP17 said he has been injured alot ,and is small at 5’9" 190lb ,and we have enough small guy’s already.

by hellfish on Jan 12, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

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